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Shayne Hawke · Oct 13, 2008, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by ALF71BE

It's sad, indeed. But at least we got Gamer.

I've been a member of a small group that syncs into DA and Snowball, so if you're trying to say that that's a "respectable" title, you'd be off.

It's probably the most fun title out there though, if that's what you're aiming for.

Shadowmoon · Oct 13, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02

I doubt anyone who is buying that title is trying to join pvp guilds with it. Notice the service is pretty much offered up to r3, which is HoM requirement. Sounds more like a pve method to get the statue, which is similar to paying people to run elite missions and dungeons for you.

Plus how is this different than rolling is HB, you are just get titles points. waiting for the mass banning caused by that.

I do agree that the failing to load part needs fixing, but as long as it win trading, the risk of getting another guild than the one you synced i think balances it. If you get to many of of those, you sync guild falls out of champ range and becomes worthless.

Burton2000 · Oct 13, 2008, 03:50 PM // 15:50

Ladder manipulation is a higly punishable offence if anyone remembers the QQ saga ages ago.

zwei2stein · Oct 13, 2008, 04:26 PM // 16:26

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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon

I doubt anyone who is buying that title is trying to join pvp guilds with it. Notice the service is pretty much offered up to r3, which is HoM requirement. Sounds more like a pve method to get the statue, which is similar to paying people to run elite missions and dungeons for you.

Plus how is this different than rolling is HB, you are just get titles points. waiting for the mass banning caused by that.

I do agree that the failing to load part needs fixing, but as long as it win trading, the risk of getting another guild than the one you synced i think balances it. If you get to many of of those, you sync guild falls out of champ range and becomes worthless.

Part of exploit is evading rank loss for loosing if sync fails ("fail" loading, no rank loss).

And nothing prevents then from buying high ranked guild and continuing where they left.

thechozenone · Oct 13, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

GANK will sync HA by having someone make a randomway that waits at zaishen to sync with their real team.

That NRF guild the OP mentioned definitely exploits getting champ points. i was in that guild for a day but left because it was the worst guild ive ever been in. the leader(the one who bought the guild) was possibly the worst player ive ever witnessed. He banned 6 out of 6 monks that we pugged to HA for 'failing'. i would see no tactics being called by him, just raging. He would literally ban them in a fit of rage the second one person died on our team. i dont remember his name and im not allowed to say, but it sounded like tsunami or something.

Avarre · Oct 13, 2008, 04:46 PM // 16:46

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Originally Posted by Burton2000

Ladder manipulation is a higly punishable offence if anyone remembers the QQ saga ages ago.

The difference is the ladder actually meant something back then, whereas now it's 100% irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

Earlier I posted a reply to this thread which was me laughing my heart out at the next level of players EXPLOITING THE GAME MECHANIC to gain advantage over other players. I was laughing because this thread just proof to Arena Net that Synching is getting to become a serious problem and they have to look into it. partly laughing because players stoop so low as to think of syching as an alternative to winning. Partly laughing because this may trigger Arena Net to do something about synching.

This doesn't give them an advantage in any way because title points don't matter, and unlike RA, it doesn't effect other players in the slightest. Nor is it a new occurrence.

If the ladder and rating mattered, this would be a bigger deal.

Burton2000 · Oct 13, 2008, 05:04 PM // 17:04

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Originally Posted by Avarre

The difference is the ladder actually meant something back then, whereas now it's 100% irrelevant.

Even if that was true it doesn't matter as it says clearly in the Guild Wars tournament rules that Players/Guilds shouldn't participate in Ladder Manipulation. Anet should either enforce their rules or change them.

Also, ladder is not 100% irrelevant as it's used as the final tie breaker in Automated tournaments.

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Originally Posted by Guildwars.com

In the event that any ties remain after accounting for Match Points Earned, the ladder rank at the start of the tournament is used to break ties, with better-ranked participants beating worse-ranked guilds.

Gli · Oct 13, 2008, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by Avarre

This doesn't give them an advantage in any way because title points don't matter, and unlike RA, it doesn't effect other players in the slightest.

Aborting matches with people looking for a straight oldfashioned GvG match affects other people by wasting their time.

Avarre · Oct 13, 2008, 05:26 PM // 17:26

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Originally Posted by Gli

Aborting matches with people looking for a straight oldfashioned GvG match affects other people by wasting their time.

Scrubs getting rolled in 2 minutes and turtling until VoD wasted my time too, but that wasn't against the rules.

It's not the kind of 'affects other players' that really makes a difference. You just have to go into GvG again with no loss. Entering GvG was never a guaranteed solid fight as it was - and the 30 seconds lost entering/leaving the game are inconsequential.

Snow Bunny · Oct 13, 2008, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Think of it this way - it's a way to get a title.

It's no less honorable than ENDLESSLY grinding out HFFF runs.

The good players know good players, it's not like a sudden influx of phony R1 and R2 champion-title wearing players is going to hurt anything, but it will increase the envy of their fellow PvE'ers.

They found a way to beat the system, with the resources, time, and patience to do it.

Good for them, what do you care?

For the record, I R-Spiked 6 champ points and have no regrets. DF HONOR

The Red Messenger · Oct 13, 2008, 06:12 PM // 18:12

entertainment is entertaining.

hopefully the people that find these loopholes will learn that the very thing they are grinding is losing its e-peen-ness every time they use the exploit, and by the time theyre done they will understand why its better to do it the old fashioned way.

till then, play games to have fun...

CE Devilman · Oct 13, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19

Oh Yes There Will Be Blood...

Lycan Nibbler · Oct 13, 2008, 06:27 PM // 18:27

Now I realize why some guy was running around spamming WTB Champ rank guild everywhere and PMing everyone he could asking....

Martin Alvito · Oct 13, 2008, 06:41 PM // 18:41

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Originally Posted by makosi

Those [eF] guys in Kamadan make me puke as they flaunt their bought trim.

Why? They should make you lol. Is there anything more pathetic than people that buy a prize that has to be earned?

I mean, those jokers brand themselves with the scarlet letter by wearing unearned trim around.

JASON626 · Oct 13, 2008, 06:44 PM // 18:44

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Originally Posted by Lykan

Welcome to 'Title' Wars, I mean Guild Wars.

I'd say "Farm" Wars

As everything gets farmed 2 death because of lack of in game content. You farm your titles as in farming to buy them or grinding.

Trub · Oct 13, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06

I find it refreshing actually.
The time and thought many of the sync teams put into the actual act....makes you wonder why they don't take that ability to the next level..TA, or even GvG.
Until then, enjoy the spectacle, and maybe whoop ass while your up against them.
QQ iz ok in RA...

snaek · Oct 13, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06

lol @ regina reading this thread

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

I've been a member of a small group that syncs into DA and Snowball, so if you're trying to say that that's a "respectable" title, you'd be off.

It's probably the most fun title out there though, if that's what you're aiming for.

does anyone remember that top100 gvg guild that sync'd da?
was all on vent and used "pro-tactics"?
went for like wut? 20+hrs straight
and racked up like 500consec victories?
(cant remember teh numbers...but they were ridiculous)

anyways, i never really thought much of the champ title
if its against teh rules, then ban

if not...then i only really care as much bout ppl buyin fame or zrank

if i need to kno who a good player is...
i watch em on obs mode or play against em
(in both cases, u cannot see their title)

Phaern Majes · Oct 13, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06

The simple solution is to remove the count down timer from the screen. Just put up a "buff" or "enchantment" called "You are in queue." And it just loads you when it does. This way players have no idea of when they'll load into the pvp and won't have any way to abuse the system.

Narcin · Oct 13, 2008, 08:21 PM // 20:21

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Originally Posted by thechozenone

GANK will sync HA by having someone make a randomway that waits at zaishen to sync with their real team.

That NRF guild the OP mentioned definitely exploits getting champ points. i was in that guild for a day but left because it was the worst guild ive ever been in. the leader(the one who bought the guild) was possibly the worst player ive ever witnessed. He banned 6 out of 6 monks that we pugged to HA for 'failing'. i would see no tactics being called by him, just raging. He would literally ban them in a fit of rage the second one person died on our team. i dont remember his name and im not allowed to say, but it sounded like tsunami or something.

I guess this person doesnt know who leads NRF.... anyway as was stated more than once PvEr HoM farmers. I sure the "good" people in this game know who the other good people are, this QQing is pointless if you know these people dont play with them simple as that.

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Originally Posted by Burton2000

Also, ladder is not 100% irrelevant as it's used as the final tie breaker in Automated tournaments.

In these cases it is. The guilds ladder maniping like this are likely not able to get into a situation where a tie-breaker is necisarry.

shoogi · Oct 13, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36

erm, who cares?

So let them farm champ points by playing each other, it doesn't affect anyone else. It could have been a problem because it screws up the ladder, but with the AT system no one cares about ladder anymore.